Timeline for Can we re-discuss plugin related questions with popularity in mind?
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| Apr 2, 2019 at 16:19 | answer | added | Krzysiek Dróżdż | timeline score: 2 | |
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| Jan 1, 2019 at 14:59 | answer | added | Remzi Cavdar | timeline score: 1 | |
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| Sep 25, 2018 at 2:16 | history | edited | coolpasta | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Sep 25, 2018 at 1:54 | comment | added | coolpasta | @bosco Rarely have I ever seen actual off-topic "support questions" related to any of these plugins. Most of these questions come from developers who are trying to create stuff within that plugin's space. Take this for example: wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/302352/… , perfectly valid developer question that I'm sure a lot of people had. Closed. For what? Woo / ACF / VC / Elementor have become extremely popular. Every developer I know uses them. Just close the actual support questions who are clearly not okay. | |
| Sep 19, 2018 at 17:50 | comment | added | bosco | The idea of some sort of "popularity threshold" appeals to me to some degree... but at the same time I find the notion of the community providing free support to commercial extensions fairly disturbing (I would certainly feel less inclined to answer questions for such plugins). I also wonder about the rate at which users might be posting or modifying third-party code in such a manner that violates licensing terms, either by attribution or commercial restrictions. Not that that's the community's responsibility, but it does seems like something else that might degrade the site's reputation. | |
| Jul 8, 2018 at 20:46 | comment | added | Fayaz | I agree with everything you said, but I still feel like something is missing :( ... there must be a better way to handle this situation than to just down voting & closing while those questions keep coming in an increasing rate. At least it demands more discussions IMHO. | |
| Jul 8, 2018 at 9:08 | comment | added | Mark Kaplun | yes, we are in limbo, therefor I downvote so at least it will not pop up in the future as something the system thinks that should be answered. The reverse argument.... well right now I think that only tom and me are the highest "ranking" that actually bother answering questions and I feel like I am on the way out as I have no appetite to do free work for automattic answering WC questions which they should just put someone to answer them, and it is not fun at all close voting and downvoting. The more noise there will be IMHO the less long term precipitation there will be. | |
| Jul 8, 2018 at 7:31 | comment | added | Fayaz | @MarkKaplun LOL. Yes, there is not enough people to answer & all the other issues as well. However, there's not enough people to close all those either, so we practically are in limbo :D ... So the reverse argument is getting traction (to get out of that limbo): may be if those are allowed, then perhaps in time there'll be enough people on the site to answer those. | |
| Jul 8, 2018 at 7:23 | comment | added | Mark Kaplun | @Fayaz, yes, but the argument in the end is that there is no one around to answer those questions, so it just generates noise. This was the argument for years, and so far no one showed how this problem can be fixed. In addition even things like WC are so unstable that an answer from two years ago might not be applicable for the latest version which makes answers less useful (busy right now fixing deprecation notices from WC in hope that at some point I will be able to actually upgrade to the latest, and then probably fix more deprecations... ;) ) | |
| Jul 8, 2018 at 6:26 | comment | added | Fayaz | @MarkKaplun I myself prefer not to allow 3rd party Plugin Dev questions, but I'm being moved somewhat because of popularity. So I'd disagree with you on this topic: popularity does matter at least because of the fact that WPSE is community driven. e.g. even now there are more than 200 posts in the close vote queue. Not to mention, there are many more that are not even in the close vote queue thanks to a lot of 3rd party plugin dev questions. So unless there's some moderator hammer over them all together, they are being already allowed by the virtue of popularity anyway, LOL. | |
| Jul 8, 2018 at 5:13 | comment | added | Fayaz |
I participate in the Close Votes review queue from time to time. Recently almost all the close votes I gave was related to Plugin specific dev questions. Now a days I'm feeling like: Plugin suggestion questions should always be off topic, however, Plugin Specific dev questions should be on topic. For now, I'll just skip these in review queue. Since WPSE is community driven, it doesn't matter what was previously decided, what matters is what the community in general thinks now. So revisiting should always be on the table.
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| Jul 4, 2018 at 10:16 | comment | added | I am the Most Stupid Person | @Howdy_McGee Yes, please think about it | |
| May 14, 2018 at 19:34 | comment | added | Howdy_McGee Mod | While plugin specific questions are currently off-topic, I think it's something we should revisit in the near future. | |
| May 14, 2018 at 19:29 | comment | added | Mark Kaplun | I think this was discussed enough times. There is a point in revisiting the discussion only if something has changed, or previous discussions had missed anything. popularity or code quality was never the reason for plugins to be off-topic, therefor I do not see the point of starting a discussion from that irrelevant angle | |
| May 14, 2018 at 8:52 | history | edited | coolpasta | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 14, 2018 at 7:32 | history | asked | coolpasta | CC BY-SA 4.0 |